Early in the morning of April 8, 2007 tragedy struck the Black Rock International Burner Hostel. Shortly after 5am, a fire broke out in Fred's main RV which was parked in front of his home. Within minutes the RV was engulfed in flames, and spreading to the second RV parked adjacent in the driveway. Moments later the flames started up the roof of our beloved friends home. Fire and police personnel responded very quickly, and were able to contain the fire before it had spread to the entire house - despite efforts from Fred and a heroic effort by Metric and the hostel guests.
It is five hours later and there are now two hulking, burnt RVs parked in front of the hostel, a fire damaged sedan, and the front of the house has sustained some fire and water damage. The emotional energy is low today. Peeps do not apply. This is only the beginning of a long process of cleaning, disposing of the remains, collecting what may be salvageable from those remains, and the rebuilding that will occur between now and August.
Many of you know and love, Hagey. This is an unprecedented tragedy of the highest magnitude, and all of my sympathies are with him this Easter. Organizational efforts to support this good man and what he has done for our community will begin immediately. Right now, it is just a shock. I can't get the sound of the unspent rounds stored in a cupboard pop, pop, popping in the searing heat of the flames and being completely at the mercy of the fire. Waking up to Fred's cries and alarm this morning will be with me forever.
Please note: those little water hoses coming out of your house and the little fire extinguisher in your kitchen are next to worthless against this type of blaze. Too little, too late. Three large fire tanks were emptied into this blaze.
More information coming soon.
It is five hours later and there are now two hulking, burnt RVs parked in front of the hostel, a fire damaged sedan, and the front of the house has sustained some fire and water damage. The emotional energy is low today. Peeps do not apply. This is only the beginning of a long process of cleaning, disposing of the remains, collecting what may be salvageable from those remains, and the rebuilding that will occur between now and August.
Many of you know and love, Hagey. This is an unprecedented tragedy of the highest magnitude, and all of my sympathies are with him this Easter. Organizational efforts to support this good man and what he has done for our community will begin immediately. Right now, it is just a shock. I can't get the sound of the unspent rounds stored in a cupboard pop, pop, popping in the searing heat of the flames and being completely at the mercy of the fire. Waking up to Fred's cries and alarm this morning will be with me forever.
Please note: those little water hoses coming out of your house and the little fire extinguisher in your kitchen are next to worthless against this type of blaze. Too little, too late. Three large fire tanks were emptied into this blaze.
More information coming soon.
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Sun, April 8, 2007 - 11:51 AMI'm sorry to hear of the upset. I only hope that, in the spirit of spring and rebirth, this will eventually be viewed as an opportunity for growth rather than as a loss.
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Sun, April 8, 2007 - 3:02 PMOh man Hagey! HANG IN THERE!! -
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 1:21 AMfuuuuuuuuuck! can we set up some sort of pay pal in support of hagey and also his neighbour? maybe we can email him. that is real rough and so NOT what he deserves. -
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 1:24 AMif someone sets up a paypal i got a donation for haggy. that man has done sooooooo much for everyone else we should band together and do something to help him.
much love to you haggy!!!
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 1:41 AMoh and does any one know if the kwis rv was burnt aswell? it says there were two damaged in the 1st post -
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 3:00 AMHana, I did hear rumors that the Kiwi van got hit too, sorry! :( Poor Hagey, what really shit luck. Does anyone know how it started? I'm all up for donating to a PayPal to help out with some of the repairs. Does Hagey still have the account set up from last year's camp fees? Perhaps we could use that one? -
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 6:45 AMOh my god! This is awful! Poor Hagey. Yeah if anyone has the knowledge how to set up a paypal account or if the old one is still active then I can defo send some cash to help in some way....sending good vibes xxx -
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 9:16 AMand locally what can us local burners do to pitch in on a possible "clean up day"????? -
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Mon, April 9, 2007 - 10:01 AMThis sucks ass.How can I help? -
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 11:43 AMSandman has posted a couple of pics in the photos of this tribe just in case you've missed them.
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 2:05 PMhmmm so seems hagey dont want any kind of pay pal set up
"Thanks so much for the concern, but, please, I do not wish to seem like a charity case. This is a big personal loss, but I am a proud and independant man, the loss will be partially offset by insurance, and I do not wish to be making any public appeals for money." - Hagey as said on hostel forum
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Mon, April 9, 2007 - 4:37 PMThat's the only thing with living so far away. The only thing we can possibly do is reach for our wallets. Why don't we have personal teleportation devices yet? -
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Mon, April 9, 2007 - 5:04 PMgeeez i reckon maybe we should invent one and then when we finish it we can donate it to hags, im sure hell have lots of fun with it -
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Tue, April 10, 2007 - 7:56 AMI know... and Hagey is that kind of person, all heart, all giving. When you look at the bad luck he's had at times, it breaks my heart... NO one, esp, no one that giving, should have to go through this much SHIT .
Something we should do - incognito and whatnot. You know he's gonna say no no no, but like Roamer sed, a lot of the time a lot of the folks who he has helped out so much are so far away that ya can't just get in the car and drive an hour and pitch in a hand like those of us stateside can do...
Anyway... it's not charity... it's love. We're working on ideas on another site now... will keep you updated.
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Tue, April 10, 2007 - 8:18 AMOk Im local, and I have friends...when do we show up for CLEAN up detail...Hagey????
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Tue, April 10, 2007 - 9:12 AMVery well said BB!
It's so hard being over in London and not being able to pop across at any time. Hmmmnnn it's getting more frustrating everyday when it comes to BM stuff so perhaps we should all emmigrate to Reno!
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Re: Easter Morning Tragedy
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 12:17 PMOkay here is the scoop - sort of.
No PayPal at the moment. The hostel does have an account for camp dues, but not donations. Other people ARE working this angle. What Fred could use most at the moment is a hand from anyone in the Reno/Sparks area. There is a big mess in front of the house, and he's there by himself at the moment. If you need contact info, please message me. I won't post it here for privacy.
In other news, we will be working out plans for the 2nd Annual Black Rock International Burner Hostel Easter Burn in the very near future.
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Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 12:22 PMHey folks-
Just off the phone with Hagey. After a little bit of browbeating to remind him of all the people he's helped and hosted over the years, and how they'd likely want to return the favor, he said " I'm now willing to accept help, and let's face it, I could use a little."
The need is big, folks: The fires cooked both his RVs, which were stuffed with all the gear used by campers passing through. All those blankets, pillows, sleeping bags, tents used by the Hostel are crispy, charred cinders.
Burners Without Borders already has a paypal account set up, and we would be happy/honored to pass on any donations to Hagey--after all, what could possibly be more without borders than the International Burner Hostel? Hagey ( who hosted volunteers and worked on the BWB Habitat for Humanity project in February ) said he'd be honored and humbled if folks wanted to help in that way.
To donate, go to paypal.com and send it to donate@burnerswithoutborders.org. PLEASE MAKE SURE to note that the donation is for Hagey/The Burner Hostel, since we're also raising money for other projects. 100% of all donations received will be passed on to Hagey within the next two weeks, and we'll keep this thread posted on the progress.
And if you've got a minute, give Hagey a ring with a quick moment of support:
775 544 9803 home
775 358 5080 cell
If someone has time to cross post this to DPW and Euroburners lists, that would be great.
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 3:00 PMI'll post to the Euroburner's email list and thanks for getting him to see sense! -
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 4:59 PMFive donations so far, including two from England ! ( How much is a pound in dollars, anyway?)
Thanks and keep em coming! Hagey will need sleeping bags etc etc, but that's got to come later--he literally doesn't have anywhere to put em. And right now he's got more important things to worry about--like the hole the firemen hacked through the drywall in his bedroom.
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 6:10 PMdonations from new zealand on the way -
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 6:33 PMhow do i use paypal without signing up? or does any one know what zip code i can use? we dont have them down here in nz and also a phone number that they will accept? pay pal is not accepting my zip code or phone number.
may be im just doin it wrong! i dunno, help?
damn technology
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Wed, April 11, 2007 - 1:06 AMJust sent another donation from England.
Exchange rate on PayPal was 1.92 dollars to the pound.
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Wed, April 11, 2007 - 3:09 AMoh man NZ's is like 0.72 to US dollars -
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Wed, April 11, 2007 - 7:27 AMDon't swet it, Hana, it spends the same, just dif units. An NZ dollar buys about what 75 cents does in the US, just like a US dollar is worth a half a Pound in GB. It all works out... trust me. What was scary was visiting somewhere like Italy before the Euro - something like 2000 to the dollar. When you see grocery prices in mid 4 to low 5 digits it gets scary!! (Downside is with the euro prices shot way up...)
Also, dealing with kids living over there helps adjust your thinking to this bizarre concept. ; )
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Wed, April 11, 2007 - 2:58 PMhehe i try not to even think about what the nz dollar is next to the euro or the pound arrggghh, thatl be scary when i make it to europe eventually
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 8:37 PMhey not sure if your the person to ask, but just made a paypal donation and was not sure how to make a note that it is going to hagey/burner hostel. so when donation received from hanatuwhare@gmail.com its for the hostel, please tell me if i should be sending this message to someone else : ) -
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Re: Paypal set up--donate to help Hagey/Burner Hostel get back on their feet
Tue, April 10, 2007 - 10:24 PMGot em! Five more donations, including two from KIWIs, in the last couple hours...thanks folks!
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Wed, April 11, 2007 - 12:01 AMI will donate as soon as i'm paid on friday. I've never had the pleasure of staying at the hostel but... -
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Keep em coming:)
Wed, April 11, 2007 - 7:23 AMFourteen donations as of this morning. Cool to watch the timing...a couple from NZ right off, then London, then US, then again from some Kiwis, a couple more from London--like watching the world turn, and sprinkle goodness on Hagey. We'll leave this thread open for a couple more days, then hit Hagey with a nice big wad of help. Thanks, everyone, very inspiring to see folks chip in like this! Let's keep the doors on the International Burner Hostel open for business! -
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How do i specify...?
Wed, April 11, 2007 - 3:54 PMI don't see a way thru paypal to specify that the payment is for the Hostel....
Only to specify that it is for "service/other," "goods," "cash advance," or "ebay item"...
Should a mark one of those to signify it is for Hagey? or is there a website i should be coming thru instead of going straight to paypal?
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Re: How do i specify..+ UPDATE!!
Thu, April 12, 2007 - 9:18 AMService other will work...and now for your:
Thursday Morning Update!
A dozen more donations overnight, one from as far away as Turkey!
My favorite, though, had this message attached to it:
"very sorry to hear of your loss. This will be my first BM, and I hope to meet you. Regards, John"
Get this--he'd never even MET HAGEY OR BEEN TO THE EVENT, and still sent a big wad o'cash.
There's your Karmic payback, for ya.
We'll leave this open one more day, then get the goods off to Hagey.
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Re: How do i specify..+ UPDATE!!
Thu, April 12, 2007 - 4:31 PMI mostly enter 000000 for my ZIP code when US sites ask for one. Or you can use
www.nzpost.co.nz/Cultures/...odeFinder/
to look your postcode up. (e.g. Kingsland is 1021)
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Friday morning update
Fri, April 13, 2007 - 9:29 AMAnother eight contributions yesterday, including another from England, one from Italy, and a couple very generous ones that wanted to remain anonymous. I'll tally it up tomorrow during the Green Man open house, and we'll see how we've done! Incredible to see this outpouring of love and support for someone who's given so much to the community.
This makes me reflect on the Yahoo thread going, and the theme through it--people change when people take time to hold a mirror up to their actions, and let them see themselves. And that's exactly what's happening now--you're holding a mirror up to Hagey, and what he's seeing is simply beautiful. -
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Re: Friday morning update
Thu, August 2, 2007 - 9:37 PMBump.
Yes I know accepting donations can be rough. But for something like this, It's one step to keeping the vision going.
I appreciate the burner hostel's actions, it's saved lots of friends along the way during journeys so I'm bumping.
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